Hanoi (VNS/VNA) - As Vietnam and Australia mark 50 years of bilateral relations, Vietnam News speaks to Australian Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski about plans to celebrate the milestone and what the future hold for the partnership between the two countries.
Reporter: How do you evaluate the relationship between the two countries over the last few years?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: It's a very exciting time to be Australia's ambassador in Vietnam on the anniversary of our 50th anniversary of diplomatic relations. I think I can say very confidently that at no time in history has our relationship been stronger or better than it is today.
It's built on a very strong feeling of mutual trust and on practical cooperation across so many fields over so many years. And for that, I really have to thank successive Australian ambassadors and Vietnamese leaders for enabling these strong areas of cooperation to develop. And I'm thinking of defence cooperation, education, trade, and the important people-to-people links that we enjoy.
Reporter: How do you assess the results of the two country’s people-to-people diplomacy over the past 50 years?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: When I was in Melbourne in December with the Chairman of the National Assembly Vuong Dinh Hue, I realised that in Melbourne, Vietnamese is the second language after English.
There is a huge number of Vietnamese Australians and increasingly these young people are coming back to Vietnam to start businesses, to establish working relationships. So these people-to-people links are important. In addition to that, we estimate we have between 80,000 and 100,000 alumni here of Vietnamese students who have studied in Australia and returned to Vietnam. They are now building their careers in business, in government and elsewhere. That is an important element of the people-to-people links as well. Now that both countries are open, we've both done quite well in managing COVID, tourism will increase as well.
All of this says that there's going to be a very bright future for the two countries in terms of those people-to-people connections.
Reporter: During the visit to Australia by National Assembly Chairman Vuong Dinh Hue, the leaders of the two sides agreed to support the two countries in upgrading their relationship to a comprehensive strategic partnership at a suitable time. What is the likelihood of this happening this year especially given the 50th anniversary?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: I'm very optimistic. The fact that a leader as senior as Vuong Dinh Hue announced the intention when he was in Australia in December, I think is a very positive sign. As you probably know, until recently, there were only three countries that had that level of relationship with Vietnam.
Those were China, Russia, and India. And then in December, Korea was included in that list.
And once we do have that higher level of relations, that will open the way to increasing cooperation in new areas. And the new areas that we are thinking about are climate change, energy transition, and some of the more high-tech areas of cooperation that I know Vietnam and Australia are both very interested in.
Reporter: What plans does the Australian Government have to cooperate with Vietnam to further promote gender equality?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: That's an important part of what we do. In our system, our development cooperation programmes have to have at least 80% of all the programs with an impact on women. And in this country, I think it's even higher.
This year our total development cooperation investment with Vietnam will reach 3 billion AUD and it's still growing. And a big focus of that is on the empowerment of women.
What we know in Australia, and this is what international research also underlines is, unless you give women the opportunity to fully develop in commerce and in government, a country cannot fully realise its potential.
We recently established within the Ho Chi Minh National Academy of Politics, a centre called the Vietnam Australia Center. And that grew out of our work with the Hồ Chí Minh Political Academy around women's leadership.
The Vietnamese side really values this area of the work we're doing, and I think that's going to continue to grow.
Reporter: What are the potential opportunities for cultural cooperation and exchange between our two countries? And how could Vietnam promote further cultural exchange with Australia?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Culture and the arts speak to us in a way which is different from the way politicians do.
I've just come from HCM City where this morning the chairman of the people's Committee of HCM City put on a fantastic concert for Australia to celebrate the 50th anniversary.
Last night the Consulate General in HCM City also put on a concert, which included performances by prominent Vietnamese artists and Australian artists.
I was particularly pleased that we had two very famous Australian indigenous artists because in Australia we're very proud of the fact that we have the oldest living culture in the world, at 65,000 years.
That is an important element of what we can share with Vietnam.
Reporter: Does Australia have any plans to promote innovation and education partnerships?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Innovation is a very important part of what we are doing.
We have a programme called Aus4Innovation and we are about to extend that for another four or five years and increase the investment.
And the application of all these things in agriculture, in business, in finance, that's where Australia will start to play an even bigger role in Vietnam than in the past.
You know, Australia started the whole IT process here in Vietnam. The first satellite communications, the first undersea cables, the first ATMs were all brought by Australia.
Then I think we became less involved. Well now we're coming back, and I think we are going to see a lot more cooperation in the innovation space between our countries.
Reporter: Does Australia, as a leader in clean technology and a trusted partner, have any plans to help Vietnam achieve economic development but also ensure the net zero goal by 2050?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Vietnam and Australia have different economies, but we are dealing with the same challenge with fossil fuels. We're both very dependent. We can work with Vietnam for both our benefits.
Australia already is investing in wind farms onshore and offshore, and our energy regulator is ready to start talks with the Vietnamese energy regulator about how we can compare our systems for ensuring that we are maximising the benefit of renewable energy.
Reporter: What is your message on this important anniversary, and what other activities do you have coming up this year to celebrate the occasion?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: The message tonight really is about friendship. And it's about thanking the people who have worked so hard over the 50 years to create this relationship. And it's about looking forward to the things we can achieve together in the future. This year there'll be many more things coming up.
There'll be a number of important activities, some showcasing our indigenous cultures, some showcasing our food and wine, and we will have a number of very high-level visitors as well.
Vietnam is, I think, Australia's favourite country at the moment. Everybody wants to come here and we are going to take advantage of that./.
It's built on a very strong feeling of mutual trust and on practical cooperation across so many fields over so many years. And for that, I really have to thank successive Australian ambassadors and Vietnamese leaders for enabling these strong areas of cooperation to develop. And I'm thinking of defence cooperation, education, trade, and the important people-to-people links that we enjoy.
Reporter: How do you assess the results of the two country’s people-to-people diplomacy over the past 50 years?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: When I was in Melbourne in December with the Chairman of the National Assembly Vuong Dinh Hue, I realised that in Melbourne, Vietnamese is the second language after English.
There is a huge number of Vietnamese Australians and increasingly these young people are coming back to Vietnam to start businesses, to establish working relationships. So these people-to-people links are important. In addition to that, we estimate we have between 80,000 and 100,000 alumni here of Vietnamese students who have studied in Australia and returned to Vietnam. They are now building their careers in business, in government and elsewhere. That is an important element of the people-to-people links as well. Now that both countries are open, we've both done quite well in managing COVID, tourism will increase as well.
All of this says that there's going to be a very bright future for the two countries in terms of those people-to-people connections.
Reporter: During the visit to Australia by National Assembly Chairman Vuong Dinh Hue, the leaders of the two sides agreed to support the two countries in upgrading their relationship to a comprehensive strategic partnership at a suitable time. What is the likelihood of this happening this year especially given the 50th anniversary?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: I'm very optimistic. The fact that a leader as senior as Vuong Dinh Hue announced the intention when he was in Australia in December, I think is a very positive sign. As you probably know, until recently, there were only three countries that had that level of relationship with Vietnam.
Those were China, Russia, and India. And then in December, Korea was included in that list.
National Assembly Chairman Vuong Dinh Hue (R) presents a souvenir to Australian Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski (Photo: VNA)
If we can be the next country, we'll be very happy. And I think this year we have so many high-level visits in both directions. There should be ample opportunity for that announcement. And once we do have that higher level of relations, that will open the way to increasing cooperation in new areas. And the new areas that we are thinking about are climate change, energy transition, and some of the more high-tech areas of cooperation that I know Vietnam and Australia are both very interested in.
Reporter: What plans does the Australian Government have to cooperate with Vietnam to further promote gender equality?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: That's an important part of what we do. In our system, our development cooperation programmes have to have at least 80% of all the programs with an impact on women. And in this country, I think it's even higher.
This year our total development cooperation investment with Vietnam will reach 3 billion AUD and it's still growing. And a big focus of that is on the empowerment of women.
What we know in Australia, and this is what international research also underlines is, unless you give women the opportunity to fully develop in commerce and in government, a country cannot fully realise its potential.
We recently established within the Ho Chi Minh National Academy of Politics, a centre called the Vietnam Australia Center. And that grew out of our work with the Hồ Chí Minh Political Academy around women's leadership.
The Vietnamese side really values this area of the work we're doing, and I think that's going to continue to grow.
Reporter: What are the potential opportunities for cultural cooperation and exchange between our two countries? And how could Vietnam promote further cultural exchange with Australia?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Culture and the arts speak to us in a way which is different from the way politicians do.
I've just come from HCM City where this morning the chairman of the people's Committee of HCM City put on a fantastic concert for Australia to celebrate the 50th anniversary.
Last night the Consulate General in HCM City also put on a concert, which included performances by prominent Vietnamese artists and Australian artists.
I was particularly pleased that we had two very famous Australian indigenous artists because in Australia we're very proud of the fact that we have the oldest living culture in the world, at 65,000 years.
That is an important element of what we can share with Vietnam.
Reporter: Does Australia have any plans to promote innovation and education partnerships?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Innovation is a very important part of what we are doing.
We have a programme called Aus4Innovation and we are about to extend that for another four or five years and increase the investment.
Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh meets with his Australian counterpar Anthony Albaneset on the sidelines of the 40th and 41st ASEAN Summits in Phom Penh, Cambodia (Photo: VNA)
Vietnam has prospered very well with an economic model, which has depended on employment-intensive manufacturing, and that's worked well. But for Vietnam to progress to the next level of development, it needs to go up the value curve and move into high-tech, Industry 4.0, AI, quantum computing. And the application of all these things in agriculture, in business, in finance, that's where Australia will start to play an even bigger role in Vietnam than in the past.
You know, Australia started the whole IT process here in Vietnam. The first satellite communications, the first undersea cables, the first ATMs were all brought by Australia.
Then I think we became less involved. Well now we're coming back, and I think we are going to see a lot more cooperation in the innovation space between our countries.
Reporter: Does Australia, as a leader in clean technology and a trusted partner, have any plans to help Vietnam achieve economic development but also ensure the net zero goal by 2050?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: Vietnam and Australia have different economies, but we are dealing with the same challenge with fossil fuels. We're both very dependent. We can work with Vietnam for both our benefits.
Australia already is investing in wind farms onshore and offshore, and our energy regulator is ready to start talks with the Vietnamese energy regulator about how we can compare our systems for ensuring that we are maximising the benefit of renewable energy.
Reporter: What is your message on this important anniversary, and what other activities do you have coming up this year to celebrate the occasion?
Ambassador Andrew Goledzinowski: The message tonight really is about friendship. And it's about thanking the people who have worked so hard over the 50 years to create this relationship. And it's about looking forward to the things we can achieve together in the future. This year there'll be many more things coming up.
There'll be a number of important activities, some showcasing our indigenous cultures, some showcasing our food and wine, and we will have a number of very high-level visitors as well.
Vietnam is, I think, Australia's favourite country at the moment. Everybody wants to come here and we are going to take advantage of that./.
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